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Posted Today, 01:09 AM
Hello all,I've been struggling with this issue for a long time now and it is starting to make me nuts.
What is the problem:
As long as I'm working within Renoise, nothing is going wrong. Everything functions. But when I switch to another application, for example notepad, in windows and try to go back to Renoise, Renoise isn't responding for about 10 to 15 seconds at least. This is also displayed in the Windows Task Manager. Don't get me wrong, Renoise isn't crashing. Even sound is still being played normal, no crackles, no pops. If a VSTi, sample or MIDI synth is selected, I can still play them, I just can't see any screen updates, nor click anything, start or stop the track during this 10 to 15 second period.
This is really affecting my productivity, since I sometimes need to check something in a document and switch back to renoise. Trying to stop the track sometimes isn't possible dua to this and that's on occasion really annoying.
Machine and software information:
Computer:
Intel Core i5-2400S
Asus P8B75-V motherboard
8GB Kingston DDR3 1333 RAM
WD 640GB Black 7200rpm/64MB cache HD
Firewire card with TI chipset
ATI Radeon HD5450
Dual screen monitor setup
Connected interfaces:
Motu 828 MKII firewire sound interface
(set to ASIO 96 samples / 44.1kHz)
2 x Motu Midi Express 128 midi interface
1 x ESI M8U midi interface
Software info:
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Renoise 2.8.1 64bit
a mix of 32bit and 64bit VSTfx & VSTi plugins
What I already tried :
- lowered the graphic/theme settings in Windows
- disabled dynamic CPU speed tools, in BIOS and Software (now running fixed at 2.5GHz)
- disabled Windows 7 UAC
- updated motherboard BIOS
- installed latest drivers
- disabled VST's in renoise
- tried to set a fixed framerate in renoise
- tried the alternative gfx update thing
- tried to play with the ASIO latency
- disabled antivirus
- tried setting renoise priority to Realtime
- reinstalled renoise
Nothing changes the situation slightly. All other applications behave perfectly, switching immediately, but Renoise is driving me nuts and I need to get some productions done. As you can see I already tried a lot of things. I didn't had the time to reinstall the complete machine yet, nor did I had any issue in the past. However the old machine was running Windows XP 32bit, so I can't really compare.
I hope you can help solve this issue, as I'm running out of ideas, but need my work to get done ...
Thanks !
EDIT :
I forgot to add that even when starting a new song, with no instruments (being it samples, MIDI instruments or VST's) loaded. No song data, just a blank renoise song, the same switching issue is noticed.
This post has been edited by Juno: Today, 01:24 AM
I like buttons, knobs and all the other things to fiddle with.Yeah, I'm probably a synthnut. Shaping sound is an art.
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Posted Today, 02:57 AM
How is your processor scheduling set in the System Properties/Advanced/Performance [Settings...]/Advanced panel?Programs or Background services?
How are your visual effects configured?
How much paging ram have you set? (normalwise 1,5x your available RAM (12GB in your case) should be enough)
Do you have any kind of memory optimizer running on your machine?
When one uses memory optimizers, they usually force memory space of programs to be kicked to paging ram whenever those program's aren't actively used.
This however causes large delays if they have to be pulled back to front whenever they are getting focus again.
Renoise consumes a big lot of RAM and would mean a big portion moved to the page-file if it gets set to the background. Your statement about Renoise also doing the same in a clean environment worries me a bit though (at least contradicts this theory).
So i would suggest the following test:
If you would turn of memory-paging (no virtual memory) completely, i suspect your problem may be more or less over, if not at least we then know for sure we are not dealing with a paging problem.
cpu Intel Core2 Quad CPUQ6600 @2.40GHz
chipset nVidia nForce 4 SLI x16 -> Driver rev:5.1.2600.445 (management 4.4.5.0)
mem 8 Gb 800Mhz
os Win 7 64-bit SP1, DirectX 11
audio ESI ESP1010e - > Driver rev:2.0.1.0
video nVidia Geforce GTX580 - > Driver rev:306.23
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Posted Today, 03:16 AM
I remember this was an issue for people who had loads of samples dumped in one folder, and the diskbrowser focused on it. Everytime you switch windows, renoise would rescan what is in the diskbrowser again. Maybe that's what is happening here?
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Posted Today, 03:58 AM
I think this has something to do with background services, or stuff in your startup folder that you are unaware of... I think you should try typing "msconfig" without quotes, into your start menu search box, and click, "run as administrator.."What you want to do then is go to "services" check the box that says, "hide all microsoft services," and disable whatever you have left.... **unless, you know you need those services turned on.. for example, I have symform cloud, and a couple of things from Magix AG turned on... but everything else is off
Warning!! If your anti-virus is not microsoft, and you need it, then you need to keep it on.
Now click on the startup tab.. and turn off everything... ** unless.. you know you want it on.
Also!! If you have not already done so.. I would scan your machine for spyware, and malware, and all that garbage... just in case.. using something like spybot, or malwarebytes.
What I can say is, "I'm also running win 7 home prem." but my chipset is a much lower spec amd.. I'm definitely multi-tasking here....
+ I like what vV said.. I've had problems with memory optimizers before
cheers
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